Home of the 3x NBA Champion Detroit Pistons So my question is for those who have been watching the Spurs regularly this season: Just how good is Devin Vassell now: defensive and offensive upside and limitations? Bonus info: Right now according to this same LEBRON metric, Vassell would make the defensive (imaginary) fourth team in the NBA. ): Ignoring those 19-20 years old players who are not rookies, such as RJ, Talen Horton-Tucker and Zion is so high in the top-right corner he doesn't even show up here, You can see that Devin Vassell is right up there with Ball and Haliburton, and performing arguably even better here. Very cerebral on D and fundamentally sound on offense. There was a lot of fuss when a Devin Vassell video of shooting in an awkward form made the social media rounds last month. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Bolded stats are series bests Devin Vassell - Age 19.6, Sophmore - 6'6" 180 - 13/5/1.5 and 1.5 stl 1 blk in 29 MPG - 49/42/7 … Devin Vassell brims with potential in his NBA debut for the Spurs New, 87 comments If he keeps this up, the Spurs rookie may give Pop no choice but to keep playing him. The 6’6 … I think you're underrating his ceiling, it's perennial All Star, not borderline imo. [Post Game Thread] The San Antonio Spurs (27-28) obliterate The Phoenix Suns (40-16) 111-85, Devin Vassell scores a career high 18pts, on a blistering 7-9 fgs. He becomes a fantastic off ball defender. He gets his points in the flow of the offense and is really efficient and he has been aggressive so far to assert himself which has been a real blessing for the team. Adds enough muscle that he's an above average on ball, but that's never his specialty. As you can see here, Ball and Haliburton are making their impact on the offensive side of the ball while, quite frankly, Vassell has been a monster on defense for a player of his age. 0% chance at ROY, lol, there's too many guys who'll need touches, especially if the spurs are hoping for jumps out of Keldon, lonnie walker and dejontae murray. He's never gonna be a superstar in all likelihood, but if things break right I could definitely see low-end or fringe All Star. I put together a Magic-specific draft checklist above, and drafting Devin Vassell would help Orlando address a few areas of need. Devin Vassell is my 6th-ranked prospect in the 2020 NBA Draft. He’s an elite defender, good shooter & flashes off the dribble scoring skill. The Spurs selected Devin Vassell with the 11th pick of the 2020 draft. Devin Vassell vs. Nikola Vucevic Comparison Head-to-head comparison between the NBA stars Nikola Vucevic and Devin Vassell that includes championships won, honors and awards obtained, regular season and playoffs stats and other data put side by side. Although unlikely to become a star, Vassell is one of the most readymade 3&D prospects to enter the draft in recent years. But even if be doesn’t improve, he will still be a elite role player for years to come. 2 pick in the 2020 NBA Draft.One player who is considered to be among the top prospects is Florida State guard Devin Vassell. He’s going to be a great 3&D player for years to come. Pop takes rookies slowly and he's still finding his way, but I can absolutely see him as an instinctive, natural scorer the way he is on defense. Reddit 7. On defense, he is probably our second or third best player already. Still a good shooter and a pest on defense, but he gambles a little too much. Thank you for your input, could you maybe elaborate a bit on what things he does well on defense? Devin Vassell isn’t an exceptionally gifted offensive player, though his ability to immediately fill the role of a 3-and-D wing for any franchise makes him a highly valuable asset. I've been doing some research looking at how advanced one-number impact metrics rate the rookies this season, and as it would seem on a surface level Lamelo Ball and Tyrese Haliburton look like two of the best players in the rookie class. Ignoring those 19-20 years old players who are not rookies, such as RJ, Talen Horton-Tucker and Zion is so high in the top-right corner he doesn't even show up here, You can see that Devin Vassell is right up there with Ball and Haliburton, and performing arguably even better here. Do you think that, perhaps due to the Spurs always flying a bit under-the-radar or defense not being appreciated enough, Vassell isn't being thrown into the ROTY discussion where he may have a place or is this thinking too highly of him? After a breakout sophomore season he projects as a likely lottery pick in the 2020 NBA Draft and possibly the top wing defender in this class. Wings drafted since 08 … When he starts developing his game off the dribble he can be an all star. Expect him to be a high energy defender and glue guy who picks his spots in catch and shoot situations and not much more initially. I think there is a higher likelihood that Vassell physically fills out and become ~85% as athletic as Okoro. He also has the hops and a good attitude. Reddit105 105 Shares The New York Knicks could find their “it” factor in Devin Vassell: Devin Vassell was only a three-star recruit when he entered Florida State University. He’s already an amazing defender, so once his shot starts falling and his game develops, he’s gonna be great for us. Or do you think he will be a perennial All Star or fringe All Star on this team? Obi Toppin is my guess for rookie of the year. Unless he plays so well he leapfrogs Lonnie and keldon in the rotation I don’t see it but crazier things have happened and I’d love to see it, Press J to jump to the feed. Grant Hill vs. Devin Vassell Comparison Head-to-head comparison between the NBA stars Devin Vassell and Grant Hill that includes championships won, honors and awards obtained, regular season and playoffs stats and other data put side by side. Tbh slim to none, he's good but Pop is still Pop young guys have to earn their keep with him and unless you're a star or injuries hit you're not playing meaningful mins so I don't think he'll play enough to win ROY. I think he can give dejounte a run for youngest player selected to an all defensive team but coming out after his sophomore year don’t think it’s possible. Devin Vassell made the most of his opportunity, and it certainly gave Spurs fans a teaser of his future. I think his ceiling is a guy like the commonly compared to khris Middleton with all defensive team potential, and a guy like would be a perennial all star, top 20 player in the league. The 6’6” wing’s combination of outside shooting and perimeter defense is the best of any player in the draft. Close 142 First of all, the Magic will likely need to bring in a point guard (or two) in the off-season due to the fact that both of their current back-up point guards will be free agents at the conclusion of this season. He has everything else he needs to be a star already. Devin can score from 3 levels and has a really nice mid range game. His instincts and utter feel for the game are superb for any age. at worst I'd hope for a Danny Green, Robert Covington, a really good 3 and D guy, would fit in on every team, with the rise of position less basketball. He's already an elite 3 and D player as far as I see it, and he has the brain and skills i think to evolve into a more complete offensive player. He hardly has any touches and yet is relatively solid for someone who has no responsibility yet. Devin Vassell has had an impressive start to his career. I’ve seen every game so far I’m pretty sure. I'm thinking something like what Mikal Bridges did in his rookie season for phoenix. As someone who doesn't have time to watch too many Spurs games, or NBA games for that matters as a European fan, I was wondering how good do Spurs-regulars think Devin Vassell is. If you see him on defense, you can tell he has the right skills and BBIQ to be a permanent starter on an effective team. I believe taking Devin Vassell with our 8th pick in this years draft would be a HUGE mistake. He would be putting up more counting stats with an increase in minutes. Thoughts on devin vassell? I’m just thrilled with him and his future, he is a cornerstone for sure. Thank you in advance, all information is appreciated. Do you guys see him as being a Top 5 or Top 10 superstar in the league in the next few years? Devin Vassell Since Vassell is going to be playing here come next month, as soon as the season starts, what chances do you give him as Rookie of the Year? Dude can flat out shoot the ball. His only flaw right now is a relatively weak handle, but that's one of the easiest things to improve. Now it is up to you to decide how much we can take from these one-number metrics, but they do a pretty decent job at predicting team success and ballparking player values in their current roles for now. Whether he ascends even higher would depend on how he develops his individual offense and handles to break down defenders and or whether he develops into a playmaker on offense, which we haven’t seen yet. I think he can be a fringe All-Star if he gets strong enough to guard small ball 4’s and improves his dribble game. Has he shown any flashes of, say, either great passing on-ball or, more likely, nice oppportunistic extra-passes? The mere fact that Vassell had to address it during his in-person workouts, which included the New York Knicks, only shows the power that social media wields these days. It’s a minor miracle Pop is even giving him run this early into his career, so I won’t complain, but he should be getting more minutes and taking Lonnie’s spot in the rotation because he is already playing way better than him IMHO. Those are real possibilities we shouldn't ignore, but I feel good saying they aren't likely either. 7 Shares. I think just the fact that Pop gave him starter minutes in yesterday’s game says enough. His offense translates well, he is an excellent shooter (~45% C&S), uses his added muscle to develop a decent penetration game that opens up his step back game as well. Devin Vassell is the most NBA-ready rookie the Spurs have drafted since Kawhi Leonard, and while there’s no guarantee he plays meaningful minutes for the Spurs in … His dribble game and strength needs to improve and those usually take 2-3 years to improve to the average level. He's a pure basketball player. Not in the next few years, no way. He has already been able to pack on 14 more pounds since then, but still has work to do if he doesn’t want to be bullied in the NBA. Actual pessimism would be he's hurt and out of the league in 3 years, but assuming health and no weird off the court problems, I think it's safe to say his defense and shooting will at least get him consistent minutes. Get started by reading the wiki. To me he has a ceiling of Kris Middleton and a floor of Danny Green. Devin Vassell vs. Jamaal Wilkes Comparison Head-to-head comparison between the NBA stars Jamaal Wilkes and Devin Vassell that includes championships won, honors and awards obtained, regular season and playoffs stats and other data put side by side. His numbers don’t jump off the page, but the rookie has hit his threes, avoided mistakes … Top-right=better. Vassell has legit 3 and D potential. Not much just by playing time alone. He also never really adds to his game either, in a pinch he can make a pull up jumper, but it's not especially efficient and only useful late in the shot clock when all better options have been exhausted. I don't expect or even hope he'll develop a great iso game, run the PnR super well, or anything like that, but teams still need to worry about him off ball. demonstrates solid footwork and preemptive rhythmic adjustments to optimize fluidity in C&S situations, where he possesses distinctly natural shooting ability. Empire Sports Media has learned yesterday that the Knicks have made their due diligence on Florida State University’s 3-and-D prospect Devin Vassell along with his one-and-done teammate Patrick Williams, the youngest college player in the Draft.. I would really love if someone could do an advanced breakdown on his game or perhaps point me to articles/videos doing so. Think Draymond Green, but a little smaller, probably not as good of a leader, but still All Defensive level and the kind of player that makes offenses scared. PHX - Devin Vassell SG/SF (FSU) - Vassell and Mikal Bridges on the court at the same time will be hell for opposing wings. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. He's never going to be an elite creator, but if he catches the ball without being open, he functions as a suitable secondary ball handler averaging slightly above average half court efficiency. Both are such instinctual and smart defenders who can get in passing lanes and disrupt the flow of the offense. Those players are Devin Vassell and Robert Covington. We nailed that pick. We still need that #1, don’t put that on Vassell, it’s unfair to him. I think he's much more athletic than we are accounting for generally and his scoring ability is untapped. According to a highly placed source, the Knicks made a thorough background check on both players which wasn’t only confined to the coaching staff. He's already far better on defense than most rookies we ever see and he even has room to improve. Thanks for the breakdown OP. 73.9k members in the DetroitPistons community. I've heard he is a very good team defender and has good instincts and hands to get steals and interceptions. He has a pull-up shot, can absorb contact and sees the game quite well. Ceiling Khris Middleton, floor Kent Bazemore with a whole lot of Danny Green in the middle. His one obvious area that needs refinement his is individual one on one play. New to fantasy basketball? Think something loosely similar to Danny Green for us, he can get red hot for you in small sample sizes, but you shouldn't expect that every game, nor do you really want to build a defense around him, but he'll compliment whatever you do choose to build around nicely. The Golden State Warriors hold the No. How do you rate him as a passer? 38 votes, 29 comments. r/fantasybball: Welcome to the NBA Fantasy Basketball Community. Now let's next see where these players make their impact on the game: More right equals better offense and more up equals better defense. I think he’s one of my favorite basketball prospects in a long time. I don't know how high of a usage rate he'll have, meaning I don't know if he'll be a lead scorer at all -- seems more a complementary player -- but he's a stud. Maybe the clip showing an altered form on his 3 is more worrying than I expect and he turns out to be an average shooter or worse (flashbacks to Fultz?). Devin Vassell vs. Chris Webber Comparison Head-to-head comparison between the NBA stars Chris Webber and Devin Vassell that includes championships won, honors and awards obtained, regular season and playoffs stats and other data put side by side. Toni Kukoc vs. Devin Vassell Comparison Head-to-head comparison between the NBA stars Devin Vassell and Toni Kukoc that includes championships won, honors and awards obtained, regular season and playoffs stats and other data put side by side. Here is his Tankathon profile. Since Vassell is going to be playing here come next month, as soon as the season starts, what chances do you give him as Rookie of the Year? He hit one dribble jumper as a … However, check this graph of 19-20 years old NBA players performance in one of the better new impact metrics LEBRON (Luck-adjusted player Estimate using a Box prior Regularized ON-off; what a name right, lol? I think if he ever reaches his ceiling he’s going to be a borderline all star, and his floor is going to be a great 3&D player. he could be another kawhi for all we know. Vassell was dialed in from downtown hitting 4 … Vassell is a rangy wing player who plays hard on both ends of the floor. Arguably the greatest shooting guard ever, Well rookie Devin Vassell will shit on prime Michael Jordan. It just doesn't seem to happen enough in the NBA. And what do you reckon is the ceiling for this guy? However, he is learning the league and players, I’m sure that will come along very nicely, if not by the end of the season, by next year for sure. Also this from DailyThunder.com: Since 2000, only two players have accumulated a steal % over 2.5, a block % over 4.5, and a three-point percentage over 42% (minimum 80 attempts). Okoro developing the skills, IQ/feel as much as Vassell just doesn't seem as likely. No chance at ROY this year, but that doesn't matter. Maybe his defense is overrated, he doesn't develop his on ball game, and his off ball defense becomes predictable and a non-needle mover. Thank you for your response. He has a ton of potential. edit: I should also say I'm super high on Vassell and he is the exact type of player I would draft. Second choice would be Deni. The 20-year-old wing is the highest selection San Antonio has made since picking Tim Duncan first overall in … I have it seen him really try to breakdown guys off the dribble, so it would stand to reason that aspect of his game either may need work, or is non existent. Rudy Gay scored 19 points, and rookie Devin Vassell poured in a career-high 18 off the bench as the short-handed San Antonio Spurs swamped … He looks fantastic for a rookie. Top 5 or Top 10? Vassell began the 2019-2020 season at just 180 pounds. Devin Vassell is an intriguing 3&D prospect out of Florida State. Do you guys see him as being a Top 5 or Top 10 superstar in the league in the next few years? 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